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Post by Noah Bennet on Jul 18, 2007 0:05:16 GMT -5
also, drez has been a convincing mouthpiece before, what if drez and ardor are working together, but feuding publicly, they could shepherd people around like crazy It could be possible, that's why we need to take them down. I'm sure Linderman is someone closely associated with Ardor. I'm thinking precisionk, but we need to save him for next round because we can't null him and Ardor/Drez at the same time. UNLESS bag: Precisionk Javen Drez null: Precisionk Drez
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Post by monkeybomb on Jul 18, 2007 1:43:12 GMT -5
also, drez has been a convincing mouthpiece before, what if drez and ardor are working together, but feuding publicly, they could shepherd people around like crazy It could be possible, that's why we need to take them down. I'm sure Linderman is someone closely associated with Ardor. I'm thinking precisionk, but we need to save him for next round because we can't null him and Ardor/Drez at the same time. UNLESS bag: Precisionk Javen Drez null: Precisionk Drez If we think Precisionk is the one protecting Ardor, why not just try bagging Ardor in place of Javen? I'm assuming order of precedence doesn't matter when negating powers. And even if Ardor isn't Peter, he still counts as a bagged super. Can someone expand on all the supers we're sure/pretty sure of?
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Post by dashanselhm on Jul 18, 2007 8:09:58 GMT -5
I've got to leave for work in 8 hours so as long as we figure out who to null by then we're golden.
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Post by jester313 on Jul 18, 2007 8:43:10 GMT -5
Why didn't our bag on Ardor and Drez work?
Someone explain it real slow like.
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Post by dashanselhm on Jul 18, 2007 9:00:48 GMT -5
Somehow they were protected. Ardor is claiming to have seered someone with the ability to guard and since he claims that he can copy the power of whoever he seers he guarded himself. Ardor is also claiming that since Drez is Sylar he can prevent himself from being captured exactly once. If everything they presented is on the up and up I'll eat my hat. I'm willing to bet that Ardor and Drez's roles might actually be switched and that Drez is soaking up the votes so that he can just guard himself and nobody is the wiser.
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Post by dashanselhm on Jul 18, 2007 9:01:51 GMT -5
Also, if we could get Ardor into second place and capture Drez it would be ideal.
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Post by jester313 on Jul 18, 2007 9:08:44 GMT -5
OK. So can we null Ardor and PrecisionK and Bag Ardor, Drez, PrecisionK?
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Post by dashanselhm on Jul 18, 2007 9:33:52 GMT -5
okay, all Ardor can do is seer people and copy their power. We can assume that if he is in contact with Mr. Linderman that Mr. Linderman is guarding him. In order to bag Ardor we would have to null Linderman.
However, Ardor is in the unique situation to know what Sylar's powers were last game. What if, now mind you this is a stretch but it is possible, what if Drez is Linderman, so he guarded himself, and Ardor copied his power and guarded himself. Sylar isn't going to just come forward and say Drez is full of nuts I'm Sylar. He's going to keep on killing in the background. I don't know what Ardor and Drez are doing but we would be stupid to not entertain the thought that they may be working together behind the scenes.
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Post by Noah Bennet on Jul 18, 2007 11:56:35 GMT -5
Change of plans: Let me ask Hylian to clarify, but we've got to stop Ardor (if he's Peter) before he gets to Claire.
I'll need to find out if we can use our null power on him to stop his seering. He HAS to be lying about Linderman guarding him, because Hylian said there WERE no guardians.
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Post by dashanselhm on Jul 18, 2007 13:03:07 GMT -5
oh wow, Yea, let's do that
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Post by monkeybomb on Jul 18, 2007 13:22:50 GMT -5
Change of plans: Let me ask Hylian to clarify, but we've got to stop Ardor (if he's Peter) before he gets to Claire. I'll need to find out if we can use our null power on him to stop his seering. He HAS to be lying about Linderman guarding him, because Hylian said there WERE no guardians. Last game, round one, he said there weren't any guardians YET. Probably delayed until round two. Ardor claims to have seered Linderman and then used the power to guard himself in round two. I didn't see him claim that Linderman was protecting him anywhere. I mean, Linderman could easily be doubling up the guarding, but I didn't see it claimed. I'm sure that we won't be able to null the seering, just like we won't be able to null Sylar's kills, unless a kill comes from a specific power that he brain-sucked. I would think we can null a guard, though. Especially if it was a guard power that Peter or Sylar obtained from another player. If we try nulling and nabbing Ardor and fail, we can be sure that he's getting guarded from Linderman, too. Also, I don't see any reason why Peter and Sylar should work together, unless Peter's win conditions suddenly include the bomb going off, which they didn't last game.
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Post by Noah Bennet on Jul 18, 2007 13:29:51 GMT -5
Change of plans: Let me ask Hylian to clarify, but we've got to stop Ardor (if he's Peter) before he gets to Claire. I'll need to find out if we can use our null power on him to stop his seering. He HAS to be lying about Linderman guarding him, because Hylian said there WERE no guardians. Last game, round one, he said there weren't any guardians YET. Probably delayed until round two. Ardor claims to have seered Linderman and then used the power to guard himself in round two. I didn't see him claim that Linderman was protecting him anywhere. I mean, Linderman could easily be doubling up the guarding, but I didn't see it claimed. I'm sure that we won't be able to null the seering, just like we won't be able to null Sylar's kills, unless a kill comes from a specific power that he brain-sucked. I would think we can null a guard, though. Especially if it was a guard power that Peter or Sylar obtained from another player. If we try nulling and nabbing Ardor and fail, we can be sure that he's getting guarded from Linderman, too. Also, I don't see any reason why Peter and Sylar should work together, unless Peter's win conditions suddenly include the bomb going off, which they didn't last game. Ardor saying Linderman is protecting him: forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=2346830#post2346830My bet is he had a double target to kill self guardian power. If we can null that, great. And don't try to make sense of Ardor's plans. He's got fingers in almost every network, and he's got influence in every circle. It's completely plausable that he's got Drez under his thumb or working with him.
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Post by monkeybomb on Jul 18, 2007 13:31:55 GMT -5
Also, did you guys see this exchange between Nogs and Drez?
Nogs wrote: Also, what I found interesting was Nusch was the very first person to vote drez, and it was well ahead of anyone giving out any public information that Drez was sylar. He also gave no reason as to why he voted for Drez, he just voted it. Only when asked why, did he give the response of "because dislexic was Meredith". Seems a little much for someone to go off of, and so quickly.
Drez wrote: I believe he edited out part of his response. Based on that I have a strong suspicion he's a good guy and had privileged information, he just jumped the gun. Don't worry about Nusch.
Nucsh is looking pretty good for being Ardor's confidant. I'd really like to grab him.
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Post by monkeybomb on Jul 18, 2007 13:34:45 GMT -5
Last game, round one, he said there weren't any guardians YET. Probably delayed until round two. Ardor claims to have seered Linderman and then used the power to guard himself in round two. I didn't see him claim that Linderman was protecting him anywhere. I mean, Linderman could easily be doubling up the guarding, but I didn't see it claimed. I'm sure that we won't be able to null the seering, just like we won't be able to null Sylar's kills, unless a kill comes from a specific power that he brain-sucked. I would think we can null a guard, though. Especially if it was a guard power that Peter or Sylar obtained from another player. If we try nulling and nabbing Ardor and fail, we can be sure that he's getting guarded from Linderman, too. Also, I don't see any reason why Peter and Sylar should work together, unless Peter's win conditions suddenly include the bomb going off, which they didn't last game. Ardor saying Linderman is protecting him: forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=2346830#post2346830My bet is he had a double target to kill self guardian power. If we can null that, great. And don't try to make sense of Ardor's plans. He's got fingers in almost every network, and he's got influence in every circle. It's completely plausable that he's got Drez under his thumb or working with him. I guess I give people too much credit for being able to think for themselves. If Linderman's power is true to the TV show, it should protect against a kill, not against a non-lethal bagging. But I suppose that's asking too much.
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Post by Noah Bennet on Jul 18, 2007 14:03:25 GMT -5
Too much credit. In any case, you have a point there about nucsh. But Fizban was called for on the second day by Jester, and Fiz does seem like some sort of role. Let's think it through. Worst comes to worst, I'll flip a coin.
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